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- From: thecrow@iconn.net (The Crow)
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- Subject: Re: C or C++ for a 14-year old? The definitive reply
- Date: 24 Jan 1996 03:49:18 GMT
- Organization: I rule the world
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- ou.
- >
- >When I was 17 a teacher in HiSchool was trying to covence everyone
- >(Felow students, my parents etc) that I didn't know computers
- >and that I couldn't posably know computers. Eventualy she showed the truth
- >is she was JUST learning how to USE a computer and felt a little challanged
- >by the fact that a student in her class knew more than her.
- >My mother even presented a fist full of letters from computer experts
- >a University Prosesor and a congratulations on winning first prise
- >in our contest letter...
- > This stuff should be enough to get me a job NOW... but I was 17
- >and as far as that teacher was conserned no one could know computers
- >and not be in Colage...
- > Well things have changed but I still kinda get anoyed when
- >an adult said kids are just bragging when they talk computer programming.
- > I am 26 now... Ok I am JUST NOW Learning C... My pore Vic20
- >didn't do C... It did Basic and ML... so I learned both... and Forth
- >(Got a Forth language cart later)
- > I feal kids SHOULD learn programming early....
- >I also feal thies adults who hold kids away from computers should get
- >a dose of reality... "Computers stifle creativity"
- >I don't think ANYONE who knows computers would make THAT clame... That one
- >comes from artests who rely on "traditional matreals"....
- >I don't think anyone ever said painting stifles creativity... or music...
- >computer artests would easly chalange that notion anyway...
- > Jeff
- >--
- >felinoid@ccnet.com
- >http://www.ccnet.com/~felinoid/
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- I was totally misinterpreted. I too agree that kids should learn early, I am a
- kid myself. I also think that us kids are intelligent enough to skip over
- basic, and in this age most of us are capable of that (if you have no money
- download Linux from slackware, you can get GCC and G++ for free) My point was
- basically if you are really good, get started on something powerful. BASIC has
- too many bad habits, and I see them hurting a lot of people..
-
- My two main misgivings are GOTOs and lack of variable declaration. I know lots
- of kids (given they are mostly freshman) who use only Visual Basic, and they
- dont even know the difference between an Integer and a Real! this is bad! They
- also do loops like this
-
- 1:
- print "hello mom"
- goto 1
-
- This is also bad. This is what I was talking about.
- I am sorry my fellow americans, we should work together! as ONE america! ( of
- course that includes canada, mexico, and all of Lating america...)
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